Re: RE- Re: Polyethylene
Subject: Re: RE- Re: Polyethylene
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:49:52 +0500
From: "Alfred A. Skrocki" <alfred.skrocki-at-cybernetworking-dot-com>
To: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:29:00 GMT Robert Michaels
> <The otherwise esteemed and appreciated Alfred Skrocki takes umbrage>:
I think my intentions are being mis-interpreted!
> T>For anyone contemplating melting down polyethylene milk jugs to mold
> T>into capacitor plates it should be relatively easy to make and air
> T>tight glove box and flood it with nitrogen before melting the jugs.
> T>Of course one would have to use electric hot plates since nitrogen
> T>won't support combustion.
> It would be possible, practical is another matter. If any
> are serious about this, the use of carbon dioxide ought
> to be considered. Nitrogen is used industrially (it's avail-
> able from welding supplies dealers) but carbon dioxide is
> generate-able at home with little trouble.
I favored nitrogen because carbon dioxide will get involved in more
chemical reactions than nitrogen will, typically.
> T>The reason for even considering it is because some people like those
> T>in Australia for example have great difficulty getting usable
> I'm frankly incredulous. Unless one is talking about the
> outback, Australia is =quite= civilized. Sydney for example
> is about as urbane and sophisticated as city could be --
> I beg edification from any better informed.
> I humbly apologize to all our Australian friends for
> the implication contained in your post!
It wasn't meant to be insulting in any way but polyethylene of a
grade and in dimensions usable for capacitor construction is not easy
to find in Australia, or at least thats what I've been told!
> T>I'ts all relative Robert, if one can't find useable polyethylene then
> T>it is not so crazy to try and make it, besides if one did find an
> T>easy way to recycle polyethylene milk jugs into H.V. capacitors
> T>it would be of great assistance to the environment.
> I suppose.
> Let me give you a far-field example -- why I believe my
> "head examined" quip is not as sarcastic as you may be
> (all too) willing to believe.
> Coca-Cola is to be found in virtually every country in
> the world, with precious few exceptions. It comes in
> plastic bottles. Such is the extent to which civiliz-
> ation has penetrated the world community.
> It is very difficult to picture a country where one can
> buy Coke, but could not find a plastic bag or two.
Ah but you need a bit more than a "plastic bag" to make good H.V.
Actually Robert, in terms of making polyethylene sheets for capacitor
construction from scrap supplies of polyethylene, like milk jugs and
the like - well I find that appealing even for my self! And I live in
the city of Philadelphia where plastics dealers are a plenty! I like
the idea primarily because of it's positive impact on the environent!
besides I don't like working with over 20 sheets of thin plastic when
rolling a capacitor, it would be much nicer working with single
thicker sheets, but with out the outrageous price that the plastics
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