# Re: Skin Effect

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From: 	Robert Davis[SMTP:RE.Davis-at-btinternet-dot-com]
Sent: 	Thursday, July 31, 1997 3:54 PM
To: 	'Tesla List'
Subject: 	RE: Skin Effect

From: 	John H. Couture[SMTP:couturejh-at-worldnet.att-dot-net]
Sent: 	Thursday, July 31, 1997 3:25 AM
To: 	Tesla List
Subject: 	Re: Skin Effect

At 11:53 PM 7/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>From: 	Robert Davis[SMTP:RE.Davis-at-btinternet-dot-com]
>Sent: 	Tuesday, July 29, 1997 4:35 PM
>To: 	'tesla-at-pupman-dot-com'
>Subject: 	Skin Effect
>
>Hi,
>
>I have the formula for skin depth as:
>
>	Depth (mm Copper) = 66/sqrt(freq)
>
>Where the depth is the attenuation of current density from the surface
>value/e.
>
>Question 1:  Is the surface value the same as the DC resistive value for
>copper wire of a given size?
>
>Question 2:  From the above the dynamic resistance of a copper wire at a
>given frequency appears to be:
>
>	Resistance = L/(Cr X ((PI X R^2) - (PI X (R-D)^2)))
>
>Where:
>	L = Length of wire
>	D = Skin depth
>	C = Conductivity of copper
>	R = Radius of conductor
>
>	Is this correct?
>
>Question 3:  The skin effect calculation assumes that there is only one
>wire, skin effect being then caused by the magnetic field motion form the
>oscilating currents in that wire, BUT we are winding coils with wires in
>close proximity, does anyone have a correction factor to take into account
>
>If this is the case then the thickness of insulation of wire used (assuming
>the coil is close wound) will have some effect on the dynamic resistance of
>the coil and hence the Q of the coil, I think proximity of other turns will
>increase the dynamic resistance, is this correct?
>
>
>
>Rob Davis (UK)
>
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Rob -

You are talking about effective resistance which includes all of the
effects you mentioned. The effective resistance Reff is found by

Reff = Xl/Q

The Xl is easily found and you can find the Q using a scope as I show in
the Tesla Coil Notebook. This is the only way to find the Q of a coil
operating at high voltage. The Q is found by

Q = 1.364 x A   where A = 10% amplitude from the log dec.

John Couture

>

In the above equation could you tell me what XI is/are please?