Re: Toroid question, and Thanks for primary suggestions.

Subject:  Re: Toroid question, and Thanks for primary suggestions.
  Date:   Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:42:32 -0700
  From:   "DR.RESONANCE" <DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net>
    To:   "Tesla List" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>

to: Brendan

You don't need more voltage.  Most small systems will operate great on
values from 9 KV thru 15 KV with 12 KV being the "average" value used. 
What you need is a lot of drive current to rapidly recharge your cap. 
Suggest 30-60 ma as a good value with 120-180 ma. on systems with .02

If you connect the sec. windings of the neons in parallel (your local
shop can help you and show how to do this) in phase you will get an
 If out of phase they will cancel each other out --- the transformer
draws power, and has no voltage output.  Reverse one of the sec.
connections and the full output appears.

Be very carefull --- higher powered systems in parallel will cook you
rapidly and you won't be able to let go --- never work alone with this
of system!!!


> From: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> To: tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Toroid question, and Thanks for primary suggestions.
> Date: Sunday,April 20,1997 2:43 PM
> Subject:  Toroid question, and Thanks for primary suggestions.
>   Date:   Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:40:07 -0400
>   From:   Brendan Haley <bhaley-at-shore-dot-net>
>     To:   <tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
> Hello all,  
>         First off,  I want to thank everyone for their responses with
> regards to copper tubing,  and primaries.  I have always
> found the people on this list to be the nicest and most helpful of all
> the lists that I am on,  and I just want to say,  once again
> how much I appreciate it.
>         My coil,  which I have been working on,  on and off for a year
> or so,  is beggining to look really solid as I improve it
> piece by piece,  and I'm learning alot.
>         The primary I built is 1/4" tubing with 1/4" spacing,  and it is
> at a 15 degree angle.  In order to get it to couple well,  I had
> to raise it quite a bit,  but it seems to be working well,  so I'm not
> worried about that much.
>         My new question is this:  Can the toroid "discharger" be too
> big.  I'm assuming this is probably the case.  Without the
> toroid I'm getting alot of action,  even with my grossly underpowered
> coil (5kV neon transformer <please don't laugh,  I'm
> working on this part too>),  but when I put the toroid on,  and retune
> the coil,  it seems like my output is cut in half at least.
> The toroid is pretty big,  compared to the secondary (at least three
> times the diameter),  and I'm guessing I just don't have
> enough power to get the toroid charged (I'm using very layman-esque
> terms).  I'm pretty sure it's in tune,  or at least close with
> the toroid on,  so I am now at a loss.  Is my reasoning flawed,  or am I
> close to the mark?
>         Also,  can anyone outline how to run two neons together to get
> more voltage (series/parallel,and how can I tell if I'm
> doing it right).  I actually have a few smallish neons (I still haven't
> found that 15k in the trash yet),  and I'm wondering if there is
> anything useful I can do with them
> Thanks again,
>         Brendan Haley