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Re: Capacitor charge, were is it?

On 11/06/96 22:25:02 you wrote:
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>>From lod-at-pacbell-dot-netWed Nov  6 21:27:20 1996
>Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 23:45:03 +0000
>From: GE Leyh <lod-at-pacbell-dot-net>
>To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: Re: Capacitor charge, were is it?
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>Richard Hull wrote:
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>>   The electron charge is fortuitous and was locked in as unit charge for
>> convenience and not as a be all end all unit of charge.  Fractional
>> charges do not bug me!  When we say their is X amount of charge in the
>> air or space about a metallic sphere, I have never associated it with
>> electrons, it is just charge and nothing else.  The fact that we can
>> equate it to our fixed real world example, just gives us an anchor point.
>> ( that the charge represents the presence of so and so many
>> electrons---it doesn't, of course).
>> 
>>  This is all part of the "look and feel" of static electricity, and the
>> casting aside of the need for material charge carriers and material
>> bodies to collect and hold that charge.  We are a "touchey-feely" type
>> organism we like physical models, especially for things which seem
>> non-physical.
>> 
>> Richard Hull, TCBOR
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>
>I don't believe that an electric charge has ever been observed in vacuum;
>negative charges reside in electrons, and positive charges reside in 
>positrons (proton = neutron + positron).  Do you have any experimental
>data that would indicate otherwise?
>
>If a charge could exist in a vacuum, what would determine its polarity??
>
>Also, if a charge had no mass, wouldn't the slightest electrostatic force
>produce an infinite acceleration on that charge??  (Remember, F = ma)
>A collection of massless charges in a vacuum would therefore be impossible,
>since they would all instantly retreat from each other, at infinite speed.
>
>Electrostatic deflection plates in an oscilloscope are positive proof
>(NPI) that charges have finite acceleration in an electric field.
>
>I don't want to seem nit-picky on this issue, but I consider it a very
>bold conjecture indeed to suggest that a charge can exist in a vacuum,
>and it's often distinctions on this scale that separate fringe science
>from the 'mainstream'.
>
>-GL
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>
  
Perhaps the answer to this dilemma is to say that the effects of charge can 
be transferred through a vacuum.  Not that the vacuum has a charge.



Phil Gantt (pgantt-at-ix-dot-netcom-dot-com)
http://www-dot-netcom-dot-com/~pgantt/intro.html