Re: Playing around

Tesla List wrote:
> >>> Subject: Playing around
> >Subject: Re: Playing around
> >> Subject: Playing around
> >From rwstephens-at-ptbo.igs-dot-netWed Jul 17 22:22:26 1996
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:20:20 -0500
> From: "Robert W. Stephens" <rwstephens-at-ptbo.igs-dot-net>
> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Re: Playing around
> >>> Subject: Playing around
> >
> >>From hullr-at-whitlock-dot-comTue Jul 16 22:08:32 1996
> >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:27:49 -0700
> >From: Richard Hull <hullr-at-whitlock-dot-com>
> >To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> >Subject: Re: Playing around
> >
> >Tesla List wrote:
> >>
> >> >From chadwick-at-flash-dot-netMon Jul 15 22:53:21 1996
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:07:08 -0500
> >> From: "Chad A. Madison" <chadwick-at-flash-dot-net>
> >> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> >> Subject: Playing around
> >>
> >> Well, just for hee hee's and ha ha's I decided to play with a 450 watt coil
> >> this afternoon.  Instead of your standard issue series spark gap, I strapped
> >> a Jacob's Ladder to it and took the shunt cap off.  Output with just the
> >> ladder was almost exactly the same (at the peak of the ladder) as with the
> >> .0056uf 40kvdc cap and 6-gap series spark gap.


R Hull wrote:
> >Chad,
> >There is nothing striking about your revelation.  The jacobs ladder is a
> >single variable space gap.  At the top of the arc in the ladder your
> >spaceing is at a maximum and this is where best output always occurs in a
> >system.  This is due to the higher voltage allowed to charge the
> >capacitor.  More energy, more spark.  Also this is the most damaging
> >point at which to operate a coil and many neon transformers are taken out
> >with overwide gap separations.
> > This form of gap used to be used by old radio amateurs and is called a
> >"horn gap"  It was also used as a safety type gap in early systems due to
> >its natural tendency to ultimately self extinguish.
> >Richard Hull, TCBOR

RWS Wrote:

> Richard, Chad,
> As I read Chad's post I thought he meant that he had removed the
> system storage/oscillator capacitor entirely , as well as the
> standard oscillator 6 gap fixed spark gap,
> and had strung merely a Jacob's Ladder gap in series with the neon
> transformer and the primary of the Tesla coil, and then claimed that
> when the Jacob's Ladder arc had reached the top, he was getting
> streamer output from the Tesla secondary at that instant which was about
> the same as the system was capable of producing when wired as a
> 'normal' Tesla coil.  Is this correct Chad?
> If so, this shud not work!
> Confused by the description as presented, rwstephens

Robert you are right.  Hmmm!  With a neon Xfrmer he would have some shunt 
capacitance in the secondary and the wide ladder gap would still 
oscillate the primary system, but at an very high frequency.  The system 
would be way out of tune.  I am at a loss to explain too.

Richard Hull, TCBOR