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Re: Spheres vs Toriods
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Subject: Re: Spheres vs Toriods
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From: JACK HERRON <JHERRON-at-BASIX.COM>
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:05:44 -0700
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>From: Tim Chandler <tchand-at-slip-dot-net>
>Subject: Re: Spheres vs Toriods
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>At 08:04 PM 4/3/96 +0700, Jack wrote:
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>>To all,
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>> I have been trying to figure out the magic behind the toriodal
>>shape. I was under the impression that the dominant factor in a high voltage
>>collector was the radius of curvature. This would make a sphere or an
>>oblate spheriod the best choice.
>> Could someone enlighten me as to why the toriod is the shape of
>>choice? Wouldn't the sphere be better? Is the toriod such a success
>>primarily because of the lower cost of fabrication, or is there a technical
>>reason for it's popularity?
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>> On an unrelated issue, are there any coilers in Tucson or it's
>>environs?
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>>Thanks,
>>Jack
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>Hi Jack,
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>Actually a more dominant factor for a voltage collector would be the field
>symmetry of the electric field. The symmetry of the electric field for
>sphere is simply spherical. But the symmetry of the electric field
>generated by a toroidal geometry is quite different. The E field within a
>toroid also changes slightly as certain conditions arise, where as with a
>spherical geometry they remain pretty much constant.
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>When using a spherical discharge terminal, you will generally get discharges
>all over the surface area of the sphere, due in part to its uniform
>spherical electric field symmetry. Now with a tororid, the field symmetry
>is not as uniform, thus you will generally get a discharge along some
>circle, with its center at the radial (or center) of the toroid. This
>hypothetical circle sits uniformly somewhere on the outer surface area of
>the toroid. Thus one can conclude that the surface area, from which the
>discharge originates form a toroidal geometery, is not as large as the
>discharging surface area in or on a spherical geometry. Put in simpilier
>terms, the magnitude of discharge is less dispersed in a toroid, thus it is
>much more suited for use in discharge applications, especially TCs. (NOTE:
>The charge in a toroidal discharge terminal also has a higher tendency to
>accumulate on the outermost rim (outer diameter) of the toroid, thus further
>reinforcing the above explaination.)
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>Note, in the above I used the term "generally". For clarity, it simply
>means that usually it happens that way, but not always. Sometimes there are
>conditions and other variables which arise, that we cannot necessarily
>control, which can and usually do change the overall outcome and performance
>of the situation at hand.
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>I hope that was not to hard to follow. I could have explained the physics
>behind it all, but that really would not be very useful to everyone. If by
>chance I have missed something or left something out, someone please let me
>know...
>
>Tim
Tim,
Thanks for a well presented explanation. I had simply lumped TC
terminals into general catagory -high voltage terminals- and had not given
thought to the different parameters. Thanks again for your time!
Jack