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Re: [TCML] DC Coil progress and MOT configuration



Greetings Greg et al
Thanks for the note and appreciate the limitations re time and options to 
respond.

If I have it correctly The core of the outer MOT will be at the potential of 
the 2400 volt rms connection to the first MOT. This will place all the 
voltage stress between that core and the 230v primary winding.

This may work well with the MOT in oil as this stuff has a dielectric 
strength of 70kV /mm if I recall correctly (i.e. good dry xfrmr oil)  A 
better option IMHO is to lift the wire off the core of the outer MOT and 
feed the first inner MOT into that. As I'm sure you recognise this will 
distribute the voltage stress between the primary to core and the secondary 
to core (note my thoughts about swamping stray capacity to equalise the 
stress and the debate about earthing or not the core in this configuration)

I think you will be pleasantly surprised how well your configuration will 
perform but at least if you do damage an outer MOT it is easily replaced and 
an alternative configuration can be implemented. There are many 
experimenters successfully running MOT secondary's in series (including me 
with 3 in series) so it certainly works. My suspicion is you will find the 
extra voltage it provides will be almost essential in getting the power thru 
the coil that will provide the performance you can achieve with 3 phase 
power. It would be cheaper to use a little more (and I think accessible with 
your MOTs) voltage than look to make a bigger MMC. Your MMC configured for 
56nF should hold off the voltage.

IMHO you will get more satisfactory and I think reliable if configured 
correctly performance with a 2 in series MOT secondary arrangement than a 
single MOT but time will tell
The pixs are great and they are showing us a really nice coil, good luck, 
Ted in NZ

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-----Original Message----- From: Greg Peters Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 
2013 10:43 AM To: Tesla Coil Mailing List Subject: Re: [TCML] DC Coil 
progress. and housing MOT's

Hi Ted,

I dried the wood in the oven before I used it so hopefully it will be Ok. It 
should only be a problem if the oil absorbs moisture which may allow it to 
leech out the salts you mention. I can't imagine that anything soluble in 
the oil itself would be particularly conductive.

I posted a few more coil pics yesterday.  Unfortunately I only make time to 
write posts on the bus so I don't elaborate too much. Feel free to ask any 
specific questions.

I have some concerns about the MOTs holding up as I didn't remove the core 
connection. I think they will be fine in parallel but series might be a 
stretch.

Even in parallel I will still be charging the tank cap to over 11kV. This is 
a tad lower than what I want, but it will still give me a few kW with 
0.056uF. Or, I can run my mmc trays in parallel for over 0.2uF. Just not 
sure if 8 caps in series would handle the current. Any thoughts anyone?

In fact, if the mmc held up I would probably rather go this way despite the 
high gap losses.


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