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Re: [TCML] maxwell Capacitor



Carl and Jim, 

Can you model it just as a damped Sin function? 

I was modeling it as a a modulated damped sin wave as to include the notches as well. 

A*e^(bt)*sin(wt)*sin(dt) 
Where A is the peak current as output from java tc around 800-1000 amps in my case =/ 
b is a parameter relating to decay time 
w is resonant frequency 
and 
d a parameter effecting notch frequency 

And then applied the rms current equation over the expected conduction interval and multiplied by the pulses per second. 

But your saying i should multiply by the "square of the duty cycle". so (bps*conduction time/1sec)^2 would be the same as D^2 as it would still provide the ratio of on time to total time. I have never heard to do that before. 
I take it you still wish to perform the rms integral over a single pulse length? 

At some point in the next few days i will rework my excel sheet with that new information. Perhaps this will fix the capacitor headache I have been having for over a year. Granted after the summer of 2011 I have not been working on this much at all, only with the occasional head scratching over my numbers. 





Thanks, 
John "Jay" Howson IV 


"Why thank you, I will be happy to take those electrons off your hands." 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Noggle" <cn@xxxxx> 
To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:39:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [TCML] maxwell Capacitor 

Hey--- 

Do you need 100 amps RMS? That would be a big coil indeed. My TC has a 
peak primary circulating current of 110 amps peak, but the RMS is only about 
6 amps. Wikipedia has formulas. You can calculate for the damped sine 
wave, then multiply it by the square of the duty cycle. 

---Carl 

-----Original Message----- 
From: jhowson4@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:47 AM 
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [TCML] maxwell Capacitor 

Thank you, 


I could not find a way on the site to get to the pdf datasheets, but your 
link has shown me how to get to them all. =) 
Cheers for that! 

The 25A hard limit is killing me, as I need around 100A .04uf. Oh well, 
these caps are not a good investment as such. 



Thanks, 
John "Jay" Howson IV 


"Why thank you, I will be happy to take those electrons off your hands." 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bert Hickman" <bert.hickman@xxxxxxxxxx> 
To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:29:07 AM 
Subject: Re: [TCML] maxwell Capacitor 

Hi Jay, 

This capacitor is a double-ended polypropylene film-foil pulse cap that 
can be safely used in a TC tank circuit. 

Although MOST Maxwell 31xxx-series caps are rated at 1 pulse per second 
(PPS), this particular 0.09 uF 40 kV pulse capacitor is an exception. As 
long as you keep the RMS current below 25A, you should be able to run 
this cap at virtually any break rate. 

Please note that a single capacitor should be limited to a maximum AC 
charging source of about 40/3 kV RMS (or about 13.3 kV RMS) to prevent 
overvolting during ringing in the tank circuit. The cap is rated for 20% 
voltage reversal, so the above voltage derating will keep it in a safe 
operating region. Since this cap uses older film-foil technology, it is 
not self-healing - be careful not to accidentally overvolt it. 

The spec sheet for this cap can be found here: 
www.ga-esi.com/EP/capacitors/cap-specs/31662.pdf 

Bert 
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jhowson4@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 
> Hello All, 
> Does any one have information on the Maxwell 31662? 
> Specifically how it might fair in coil use? 
> I cant locate a data sheet, just the spars information on the maxwell 
> site. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> John "Jay" Howson IV 
> 
> 
> "Why thank you, I will be happy to take those electrons off your hands." 
> 
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