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RE: [TCML] most corona possible from a car battery?



sorry, yeah i should have talked about what the purpose was. I did in the new topic.basically i want to feed ozone into a car engine to make it run faster. chaeck it out and let me know what you thinkthanks

> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:28:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [TCML] most corona possible from a car battery?
> From: bturner@xxxxxxxx
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> I guess the question at this point is the reason for creating the ozone in
> the first place... The plate method you dscribed works well, though I
> worked with a company that was making an ozone water purification system
> and we got fantastic results by creating a cylindrical chamber - an outer
> metal tube polished on the inside, a pyrex glass cylinder that loosely
> fit, and an inner metal tube polished on the outside, again, loosely
> fitting into the glass cylinder. Spacers used on both ends. 30KVac at 30ma
> (two 15-30's in series) worked great. Ozone up the wazoo.
> 
> My hunch is that the idea is to make an air IONIZER. The idea is far
> different - you want a highly efficient ionic 'spray' rather than
> generation of ozone, so there would only be one corona 'brush' assembly.
> (Monopolar) The idea being of course to highly charge any particulates in
> the air, thus inducing them to adhere to oppositely-charged surfaces. Thus
> 'de-polluting' the air.
> 
> - b
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > We made a pretty effective one by mounting two glass plates with a 3/8"
> > spacing, then putting al foil electrodes on the outside.  The plates
> > were about a foot square.  We hooked it up to a 15/30 NST.  Intense
> > corona filled the region between the plates, and with a blower, mondo
> > ozone was produced.  You could build one of these with many parallel
> > units stacked.  If that were to become the cap in a HF HV resonant
> > circuit instead of an NST, it could be quite efficient.  You could
> > experiment with the spacing and the dimension along the airflow--as you
> > make it longer, the ozone production should plateau.  That point would
> > be the most efficient width.
> >
> > Looking between the plates gives a most beautiful blue.
> >
> > ---C
> >
> >
> >> On 11/12/11 3:53 PM, James Hutton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey, I am trying to build an ozone generator that will be run off of
> >>> a car battery.So I need to figure out how to make the longest
> >>> possible, most carona emiting, continuous spark I can.
> >>
> >>
> >> You don't need long sparks or high voltage, just enough voltage to get
> >> the corona discharge.  And, then, enough current to get the corona off
> >> a LOT of little points. (few mA is sufficient, even for huge ozone
> >> amounts)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  I will then be
> >>> taking two metal meshes (about 3"x3") and placing them  about a cm
> >>> apart and connecting the two HV leads to them and blowing airthrough
> >>> the meshes while they spark.
> >>
> >>
> >> The usual way is lots of sharp points.  The ends of wire mesh cut off
> >> works quite nicely.
> >>
> >>
> >>  I just need to figure out what setup
> >>> will be the best to generate that HV carona. It needs to be something
> >>> very simple and as compact as possible.I was thinking about making a
> >>> flyback driver set up, but I dont think that is the most efficient
> >>> and compact way to do it. any help or suggestions would be great!
> >>> thanks :)
> >>
> >> Actually, a flyback putting out 1-2 kV will work very nicely.
> >>
> >> Look up designs for "ozonators"...
> >>
> >> shortwave UV light from a mercury vapor discharge tube (essentially a
> >> fluorescent light without phosphor and made of silica so it passes the
> >> UV)  also does a fine job of making ozone.  that's probably more
> >> efficient, since it's basically just a fluorescent light power supply.
> >>
> >>
> >> How much ozone do you really need?
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