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Re: [TCML] JavaTc specs for my new resonator



Hi Phil,

Geotc was written specifically for looking at L's and C's. As Javatc uses Paul's Geotc to perform these tasks, Javatc is well suited to accommodate ringed toroids with accuracy. Javatc allows the addition of several toploads and it's easy enough to model. Each ring is a toroidal shape. So you can simply insert each ring as a separate toroid at each rings height above ground and specific dimensions with a topload connection. The program will handle the rest.

Take care,
Bart

On 2/12/2011 9:55 AM, Phil Tuck wrote:
Joe,
Nice looking beast. I am particularly interested in the toroid and I
wondered how accurate JavaTc will prove to be with a toroid of that tubular
design, have you actually measured the resonant freq with a scope etc. to
see what you *actually* have? The bare secondary coil on its own would give
105.42 kHz and I wondered how much capacitance those tubular toroid's give,
when compared to an equivalent sized conventional solid toroid.
Looking at the measurements, you inputted it seems you have the equivalent
of a 12 x 48 inch toroid with its centre line at 84.375 inches. With a
conventional top load, this, along with your secondary, would give an
overall freq of 65 kHz so according to JavaTc there is little difference, as
it gives you 66.14 kHz for the tubular one.

The specs I used are:

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Secondary Coil Inputs:
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6.375 = Radius 1
6.375 = Radius 2
26.625 = Height 1
82.375 = Height 2
1287 = Turns
18 = Wire Awg

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Top Load Inputs:
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Toroid #1: minor=12, major=48, height=84.375

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Secondary Outputs:
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65.18 kHz = Secondary Resonant Frequency
90 deg° = Angle of Secondary
55.75 inch = Length of Winding
23.1 inch = Turns Per Unit
0.00302 inch = Space Between Turns (edge to edge)
4295.9 ft = Length of Wire
4.37:1 = H/D Aspect Ratio
27.2056 Ohms = DC Resistance
49399 Ohms = Reactance at Resonance
21.12 lbs = Weight of Wire
120.62 mH = Les-Effective Series Inductance
117.257 mH = Lee-Equivalent Energy Inductance
110.813 mH = Ldc-Low Frequency Inductance
49.43 pF = Ces-Effective Shunt Capacitance
50.848 pF = Cee-Equivalent Energy Capacitance
64.993 pF = Cdc-Low Frequency Capacitance
11.22 mils = Skin Depth
42.195 pF = Topload Effective Capacitance
105.3917 Ohms = Effective AC Resistance
469 = Q


Regards
Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Mastroianni
Sent: 12 February 2011 16:30
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: [TCML] JavaTC specs for my new resonator


Here are the JTC specs for the resonator in the pic, and the power supply
(back in the garage).

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/iceowl/5423115443/>

Joe


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J A V A T C version 12.5 - CONSOLIDATED OUTPUT Sat Feb 12 08:27:41 2011

Units = Inches
Ambient Temp = 68°F

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Surrounding Inputs:
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10000 = Ground Plane Radius
10000 = Wall Radius
10000 = Ceiling Height

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Secondary Coil Inputs:
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Current Profile = G.PROFILE_LOADED
6.375 = Radius 1
6.375 = Radius 2
26.625 = Height 1
82.375 = Height 2
1287 = Turns
18 = Wire Awg

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Primary Coil Inputs:
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Ribbon Primary Conductor
8.25 = Radius 1
11.004 = Radius 2
24 = Height 1
24 = Height 2
9.3691 = Turns
0 = Wire Diameter
1.5 = Ribbon Width
0.044 = Ribbon Thickness
0.09 = Primary Cap (uF)
24 = Total Lead Length
0.2 = Lead Diameter

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Top Load Inputs:
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Disc #1: inside=47.25, outside=48, height=84.375, topload Disc #2:
inside=46.75, outside=47, height=86.375, topload Disc #3: inside=46.75,
outside=47, height=82.375, topload Disc #4: inside=44.75, outside=45,
height=80.375, topload Disc #5: inside=44.75, outside=45, height=88.375,
topload Disc #6: inside=41.75, outside=42, height=90.375, topload Disc #7:
inside=41.75, outside=42, height=78.375, topload

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Secondary Outputs:
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66.14 kHz = Secondary Resonant Frequency
90 deg° = Angle of Secondary
55.75 inch = Length of Winding
23.1 inch = Turns Per Unit
0.00302 inch = Space Between Turns (edge to edge)
4295.9 ft = Length of Wire
4.37:1 = H/D Aspect Ratio
27.2056 Ohms = DC Resistance
48290 Ohms = Reactance at Resonance
21.12 lbs = Weight of Wire
116.202 mH = Les-Effective Series Inductance
115.827 mH = Lee-Equivalent Energy Inductance
110.813 mH = Ldc-Low Frequency Inductance
49.831 pF = Ces-Effective Shunt Capacitance
49.992 pF = Cee-Equivalent Energy Capacitance
68.27 pF = Cdc-Low Frequency Capacitance
11.14 mils = Skin Depth
38.56 pF = Topload Effective Capacitance
106.1615 Ohms = Effective AC Resistance
455 = Q

----------------------------------------------------
Primary Outputs:
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66.14 kHz = Primary Resonant Frequency
0 % = Percent Detuned
0 deg° = Angle of Primary
47.23 ft = Length of Wire
5.83 mOhms = DC Resistance
0.25 inch = Average spacing between turns (edge to edge)
3.206 inch = Proximity between coils
1.99 inch = Recommended minimum proximity between coils
64.999 µH = Ldc-Low Frequency Inductance
0.08989 µF = Cap size needed with Primary L (reference)
0.662 µH = Lead Length Inductance
340.042 µH = Lm-Mutual Inductance
0.127 k = Coupling Coefficient
0.155 k = Recommended Coupling Coefficient
7.87  = Number of half cycles for energy transfer at K
58.92 µs = Time for total energy transfer (ideal quench time)

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Transformer Inputs:
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220 [volts] = Transformer Rated Input Voltage
14400 [volts] = Transformer Rated Output Voltage
350 [mA] = Transformer Rated Output Current
60 [Hz] = Mains Frequency
150 [volts] = Transformer Applied Voltage
0 [amps] = Transformer Ballast Current
0 [ohms] = Measured Primary Resistance
0 [ohms] = Measured Secondary Resistance

----------------------------------------------------
Transformer Outputs:
----------------------------------------------------
5040 [volt*amps] = Rated Transformer VA
41143 [ohms] = Transformer Impedence
9818.2 [rms volts] = Effective Output Voltage
15.62 [rms amps] = Effective Transformer Primary Current
0.2386 [rms amps] = Effective Transformer Secondary Current
2343 [volt*amps] = Effective Input VA
0.0645 [uF] = Resonant Cap Size
0.0967 [uF] = Static gap LTR Cap Size
0.1681 [uF] = SRSG LTR Cap Size
276 [uF] = Power Factor Cap Size
13885 [peak volts] = Voltage Across Cap
34713 [peak volts] = Recommended Cap Voltage Rating
8.68 [joules] = Primary Cap Energy
522 [peak amps] = Primary Instantaneous Current
74.1 [inch] = Spark Length (JF equation using Resonance Research Corp.
factors)
12.2 [peak amps] = Sec Base Current

----------------------------------------------------
Rotary Spark Gap Inputs:
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1 = Number of Stationary Gaps
8 = Number of Rotating Electrodes
2400 [rpm] = Disc RPM
0.25 = Rotating Electrode Diameter
0.25 = Stationary Electrode Diameter
9.125 = Rotating Path Diameter

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Rotary Spark Gap Outputs:
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8 = Presentations Per Revolution
320 [BPS] = Breaks Per Second
65.2 [mph] = Rotational Speed
3.13 [ms] = RSG Firing Rate
18.514 [ms] = Time for Capacitor to Fully Charge
0.84 = Time Constant at Gap Conduction
436.04 [µs] = Electrode Mechanical Dwell Time
57 [%] = Percent Cp Charged When Gap Fires
7914 [peak volts] = Effective Cap Voltage
2.82 [joules] = Effective Cap Energy
335802 [peak volts] = Terminal Voltage
902 [power] = Energy Across Gap
73.7 [inch] = RSG Spark Length (using energy equation)

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Static Spark Gap Inputs:
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0 = Number of Electrodes
0 [inch] = Electrode Diameter
0 [inch] = Total Gap Spacing

----------------------------------------------------
Static Spark Gap Outputs:
----------------------------------------------------
0 [inch] = Gap Spacing Between Each Electrode
0 [peak volts] = Charging Voltage
0 [peak volts] = Arc Voltage
0 [volts] = Voltage Gradient at Electrode
0 [volts/inch] = Arc Voltage per unit
0 [%] = Percent Cp Charged When Gap Fires
0 [ms] = Time To Arc Voltage
0 [BPS] = Breaks Per Second
0 [joules] = Effective Cap Energy
0 [peak volts] = Terminal Voltage
0 [power] = Energy Across Gap
0 [inch] = Static Gap Spark Length (using energy
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