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RE: [TCML] Safety Issuie



I think we all agree not to run a coil without a secondary or equivalent
load.

I've not personally tried it, but I'm guessing the reference to the
"aluminum pan with water" is to load the primary through eddy currents
induced in the aluminum pan.  The water I think is there only to boil off
and keep temperatures sane should the test be done for an extended time.

I don't think that matching impedances exactly is important.  We just need
to have a place for the primary energy to go to.

Regards, Gary Lau
MA, USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of DC Cox
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety Issuie
> 
> No, don't run it with a pan of water replacing the sec coil.  The normal
sec
> provides a certain characteristic impedance load for the pri --- trying to
> operate with any sec will produce a very high Q factor in the primary
> circuit which in turn produces overpotentials that would, in short order,
> damage your cap or xmfr.
> 
> I'm not sure of the exact impedance of a pan of water, but sounds like a
> possible short circuit which would lead to the same problem.
> 
> Best to have the proper sec coil in place when opr your TC or testing.
> 
> Dr. Resonance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Phil Tuck <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Yes most definitely. It is more a question of curiosity than anything
else,
> > as I can't say I fancy actually trying it, but I had never heard, or
> > thought, about using that method.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > Joe in Texas wrote:
> >
> > Water plus voltage equals,,ouch!!!
> >> Or worse.
> >> Careful Please!
> >>
> >
> >  Apart from the obvious water / electric hazard, does the pot of water
> >>>> just
> >>>> need to be positioned above the primary to absorb the energy then?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >   Do not try to run your setup without secondary or other replacement
> >>>>>> load,
> >>>>>> e.g. aluminum  pan with water or similar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: <johnbrooks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:57 PM
> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [TCML] Safety Issuie
> >
> > Water plus voltage equals,,ouch!!!
> >> Or worse.
> >> Careful Please!
> >> Joe in Texas
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >>> Do not try to run your setup without secondary or other replacement
load,
> >>>>
> >>> e.g. aluminum  pan with water or similar.
> >>
> >> Apart from the obvious water / electric hazard, does the pot of water
> >> just
> >> need to be positioned above the primary to absorb the energy then?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Phil Tuck
> >>
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