Re: [TCML] 135ft arc 3ft sphere - Possible? and Moderator note

[mddeming@xxxxxxx]

Hi Gary, All?



Yes, WE have all agreed on how?WE shall measure spark length.?Since?we have no way of knowing what technique Tesla or his audiences used, his claims and theirs remain unverifiable.? Some accounts may have been?influenced by the fact that many reporters at that time were paid by the column-inch rather than by salaries, and less dramatic though factual stories got few inches of column space because they did not sell papers. Unless and until someone duplicates it, his claims remain a matter of faith.



Matt D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lau, Gary <Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 1:24 pm
Subject: RE: [TCML] 135ft arc 3ft sphere - Possible? and Moderator note




The length of an irregular object - streamer or coastline - is dependant upon 
the method used to measure it.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastline_paradox

As co-moderator, I shall decree that coastline measurement techniques shall not 
be discussed further here.

For spark lengths, have we not agreed that the only consistent measure that we 
all agree upon is straight-length point to point?

Regards, Gary Lau
TCML Co-Moderator


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of David Rieben
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:13 PM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] 135ft arc 3ft sphere - Possible?
> 
> Hi Derek,
> 
> Huh? Infinite length? You CAN'T measure a coastline?? I beg to differ!
> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_miles_of_coastline_does_Florida_have_faci
> ng_Atlantic_Ocean
> 2276 miles (facing the Atlantic) of Florida coastline defi-
> nitely sounds like a "finite" number to me. ;^)
> 
> David Rieben
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCML] 135ft arc 3ft sphere - Possible?
> 
> 
> > "You *can* get to close to 135 feet if you count all the little twists and
> > turns and count tip of one spark across the middle and to the tip of a
> > spark on the other side.  Bill Wysock's 13M gets there if you follow this
> > somewhat unconventional measurement technique (of course he's running more
> > power and has a much larger topload than a 3 foot ball) "
> >
> > All Tesla coil sparks are actually of infinite length measured this way.
> >
> > I beleive that a spark by it nature is fractal. The length around the
> > outside of any fractal has infinite length if you look closely enough.
> > (try measuring a coastline) Therefore if you count the circumference all
> > of the twists and turns you get an infinite length.
> >
> > Its amazing you ever get a strike !!
> >
> >
 Derek
> >
> 
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