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Re: [TCML] unknown tube / halogen failure



Google Halogen lamp failures fingerprints,
You can find what I was saying, it is no mystery.

Here is an site that explains it clearly: http://www.reference.com/search?q=halogen%20lamp

Frank


At 08:12 AM 2/11/2008 +0900, you wrote:
My understanding is that any organic material on the high temp envelope of a halogen/short arc tube will carbonise and heat up locally in the intense radiation causing local thermal stress to a quartz tube already running close to it's temp limit. So that applies to any greasy/proteinaceous stuff found in fingerprints. Of course no problem with vacuum tubes which you could run under oil if needed. When I have seen halogen failure it is due to overheating and melting of the quartz with bubbling and deformity.

Peter
www.tesladownunder.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TCML] unknown tube...

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actuall arc is normally in contact with the "glass" envelope ( normally made from quartz glass, halogen having the tungsten element within millimeters of the glass) and knowing that an arc can create excessive temperatures ( whe are talking plasma temps), the oils left behind from handling can in many cases compromise the general integrity of the envelope ( causes tiny hairline fractures in the glass surface which leads to an explosive failure). As far as contaminating the envelope of a vacuum tube device, you must ask the question of does it lend itself to the same heat levels as an arc lamp? Is an arc being formed and is it in close proximity to the envelope? With what I do know of vaccum tube devices, I would have to say that touching the outer envelope would not be detrimental to its life as it would be for say a laser style discharge lamp... Im old enough to remember the TV repair man coming to the house to replace tubes in the TV and he never cleaned the tubes he handled when he replaced them.... and they would glow red when the TV was on... damn Im old....someone would actually come to the house to fix the TV!!!
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