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Re: Capacitor Safety Discharge Method (fwd)



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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:45:35 -0700
From: Ray von Postel <vonpostel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Capacitor Safety Discharge Method (fwd)

Guys:

You are shorting out capacitors to keep from frying yourselves. What is 
the safety logic of putting some resistors in the circuit?

Ray

On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Tesla list wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:38:11 +0000
> From: nancylavoie@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Capacitor Safety Discharge Method (fwd)
>
> Hi, Chris. Thats exactly what I was trying to get an answer to in the
> previous posts and I think that if you kind of read between the lines 
> in
> Bart's reply, you can see that its probably okay to do if you use 
> bleeder
> resistors and discharge the cap after the charge has bled off. What I
> wanted to use was a Ross Engineering relay rated at 40 kv (normally 
> open
> contacts) and wire it across the terminals of the capacitor and
> resistors.It would then just be a simple matter of flipping a switch 
> and
> doing the work of the screwdriver in a much safer fashion.Anyone see a
> problem? Wyatt
>
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> From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:53:57 -0400
>> From: Crispy
>> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Capacitor Safety Discharge Method
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In light of the recent discussion about the necessity of a manual
>> discharge for the tank capacitor in addition to bleeder resistors, 
>> I've
>> been considering an easier method of manual discharge than the
>> stick-a-screwdriver-in-the-spark-gap method for my coil. I was 
>> thinking
>> about an electronic method, and here's the idea. Would it be possible
>> to have a linear pull-style solenoid with an electrode that, when
>> powered, would retract its electrode from another static electrode, to
>> act as the safety discharge? The normal state (no electricity applied)
>> would be to have the contacts together, and the capacitor shorted. Of
>> course, the electrodes would have to be insulated from the solenoid.
>> Also, would it be possible to immerse this under oil, if the gap
>> provided by the solenoid was insufficient to prevent sparking over in
>> normal operation, or would the oil coat the electrodes and somehow
>> prevent safety discharge?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>>
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