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Re: Question on Primary Lead Heating



Original poster: "Scott Hanson" <huil888@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Jim -

I'd look for simple explanations like before examining more exotic scenarios.

First, when you say "battery clip", do you mean something like an overgrown alligator clip? And your primary lead is attached to this clip via a small screw?

The localized heating at the clip/lead junction could be simple resistive heating, with the conducted heat making the first few inches of primary lead hot.

The great majority of these alligator and battery clips are copper plated steel, and are not very good for high current applications, especially at RF frequencies. Also, I'd suspect the clamp screw for the primary lead is also just zinc plated steel. First, try eliminating the screw connection by soldering the primary lead directly to the battery clip. Make sure the "teeth" of the battery clip (or whatever makes contact with the actual primary winding) are bright and clean, and that the spring is strong enough to assure good contact with the primary.

See if these modifications reduce or eliminate the localized heating.

As another way to explore the "induction heating" theory, you can support small pieces of different metals (steel, aluminum, copper, etc) on a small plastic pedestal near the primary. If they get hot, then there is some induction heating going on. You can attach a small liquid crystal "thermometer strip" (used for aquariums) to the piece of metal to immediately see temperature rise as the coil runs.

Regards,
Scott Hanson


----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Question on Primary Lead Heating


Original poster: "James Zimmerschied" <zimtesla@xxxxxxx>
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I was mentioning that my primary connection wire got hot at the point where the lead screws into the battery clip I was using for a connector. It also heats in the first inch or so down from this connection. When I was first trying to tune the coil, the lead got hot enough to melt the insulation on the #12 wire after only a 10-20 sec run. After finally figuring out where this coil wanted to tune (best tune point) the lead still gets pretty warm (hot to touch).

The thing I found interesting was that the primary coil leads feed into a circuit board where they are fed by hook up wire (~#22). The primary is about 5 turns of #6 solid copper. The thing that is puzzling is that the #22 wires feeding the primary do not seem to get too hot. Also the heat sinks on the IGBTs don't get uncomfortably hot.

My thinking is that the unit is acting like an induction heater, and that some point along the primary lead is a node where current is high. The hook up wire lengths are fairly short compared to the primary tap lead.

Maybe some others on the list have seen this and can shed light on it.
Regards,
Jim Zimmerschied