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Re: ScanTesla-TRSSTC-730 - Tesla's CS coil



Original poster: "Malcolm Watts" <m.j.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Terry,
          I once built a 1:25 scale model of this machine. Amazingly
(perhaps), k between the primary and secondary was measured at around
0.6. I think I later confirmed that figure using Mark's MandK program.
Medhurst and Wheeler get you in the ballpark for the individual coils
(I ignored/didn't worry about stray primary capacitance since Cp
dominates utterly). The model actually worked and interestingly, the
system performed better with the extra coil mounted outside the pri-
sec system. I seem to remember coupling between the secondary and the
extra coil measuring somewhere around 0.06 with the coils mounted
coaxially.

Malcolm


On 23 Jun 2005, at 19:11, Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> With Antonio's brand new TRSSTC engine, we can do Tesla's Colorado
> Springs coil now!!! ;-))
>
> However, I don't have Richard Hull's analysis of that coil, and I have
> no idea what the numbers are. If anyone would happen to know any of
> the following it would sure help?
>
> * Cprimary =
> * Rprimary =
> * Lprimary =
> * Lsecondary =
> * Coupling =
> * Rsecondary =
> * Csecondary =
> * Ltertiary =
> * Rtertiary =
> * Ctertiary =
> * VCprimary Initial Value =
> * BPS =
> * Coil Power Limit (watts) =
>
>
>
>
> This program simulates the structure:
> +v1- k12 -i3+
> +---C1--R1--+ +--R2--+--L3--R3--+--R4--+
> +| + | | + | + | + | +
> vin i1 L1 L2 i2 C2 v2 C3 v3 C4 v4
> -| - | | - | - | - | -
> +-----------+ +------+----------+------+
>
>
> Courier font ;-)
>
>
>
> I can guess at things like the resistances. But if anyone happens to
> have a nice list of any of this handy...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Terry
> teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >Tesla should have made it a DRSSTC :o))))
> >
> >The program only does a conventional two coil system at the moment
> >and Tesla's coil was a three coil magnifier type system. "I" am not
> >sure even what model to use there, but Antonio has worked much in the
> >three coil area...
> >
> >If the Antonio Engine were modified for a three coil system, adding
> >the extra elements to the rest of the program would be very easy.
> >One may be able to simply make the extra elements null values so the
> >two coil case could still run under the same program... It would
> >really be very easy to implement once the base model is known...
> >
> >Of course, the real challenge first was just to get "any program" to
> >"work". Now we seem to have gotten there and can think about where
> >to go next. The streamer dynamic load model seems to get a lot of
> >attention too...
> >
> >I think we should slow down a little and let folks catchup and play
> >with the program and see where they want it to go next. I have spent
> >all week working on it and I know there are folks trying to catch up,
> >so I wish to give them a chance, and for me to "rest" (I never really
> >rest ;-))
> >
> >It is probably best not to go drastically changing the program at
> >this point unless a little bug pops up... Keeping the program in one
> >place allows others to come up to speed without trying to hit a
> >moving target... I want to spend time now "playing" with the program
> >rather than changing it :-)) Like Steve Conner, I also have to "fix"
> >my DRSSTC to be as good as Steve Ward's >:o))) Scan Tesla shows us
> >some pretty obvious improvements that need to be made!!!
> >
> >I ponder the contour plots... The DRSSTC seems to be so much better
> >in every way...... What do all the surfaces mean....
> >
> >BTW - The www.drsstc.com server and the www.hot-streamer.com server
> >have their bandwidth now ;-)) I can also answer question off-list if
> >anyone has any about the program.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> > Terry
> >teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >At 06:12 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> >>Hi Terry,
> >> Now that you have the cool program running to play
> >> "what
> >> if" on the coil data, I really do wonder how it thinks it would
> >> improve on Tesla's CS coil that was duplicated as close as could be
> >> (the 51 feet diameter one). As you have a lot of data on that coil,
> >> could you run this beast through the computer and see what it would
> >> have done different? (well, besides being a DRSSTC to begin with).
> >>Mike
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject:
> >>Re: ScanTesla700 - Now were playing with power :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>>Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>