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Plane wave antenna thoughts



Original poster: Terry Fritz <vardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,

I have been sort of quiet on this, but now I will speak :o))

The plane wave antenna was originally designed with spice. Been there, done that... The only reason the 50 ohm resistor is in there is to match and damp out the 50 ohm coax cable. The scope end is pretty much "open load" so the resistor gives that magic .7071 "Q" value to prevent ringing in the cable system to the scope. One could eliminate all that if the scope were right at the antenna... Dmitry asked why the "Q" was not "1" but a Q of one still rings a little bit... I used to design speakers too ;-)) With a six foot cable and assuming a propagation of 1 foot / nS, pure cable reflections start at 6nS or about 170MHz. But the cable's propagation velocity is really 66% so we can really get a value of 1/ (6 x 0.66 / (186282.397 x 5280)) = 248MHz... That is afar above what the antenna is "speced" at... So, I would refer those that worry about the cable and attenuation things to page "one" here:...

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/PlaneWave.pdf

But if the 50 ohm resistor and cable match right (not all that easy!!) then the cable reflections will be damped too. If the resistor is say 45 ohms, then the higher frequencies start to ring up very dramatically. Thus the note about trying to get the resistor "just right". But all that really is at only the super high frequencies which really "don't matter" anyway... I know that most 50 ohm cable systems deliver "power" where a 50 ohm "load" is needed too. But we don't care about "power" in this case... We just care about delivering an accurate voltage to the scope's vertical voltage amplifiers...

The frequency response comes out to 7.9Hz to 245MHz... At say 250MHz, eddy currents and other effects can start to "matter", thus the funny etched pattern... At below 1MHz, the pattern is not important at all... I can and have tested the thing with a signal generator to 15MHz and it is "really flat" over that range. I am real confident that the frequency response is flat over say the 1kHz to 10MHz range and am very unconvinced to the arguments otherwise... My good pal Gerry talks of a problem at 80Khz... "Show me"... ;-)) Perhaps eddy currents where never a big deal either... I just copied known designs that did worry about such stuff...

Calibration is really best done with a signal generator at Fo. That takes into account the secondary coil's voltage profile too... But it takes equipment 95% of us don't have... But the error is pretty small unless you are really trying to split hairs...

Space Charge - All that DC stuff ;-)) We can raise the lower frequency response easily enough if the space charge effects seem important... But I don't think those effects have the Power or Energy to effect things much. The system's frequency response (scope too!) tends to drastically discount such effects. If the scope's input were buffered to say 1G ohm, then all that 0.1Hz stuff would be very apparent(!)...

Streamer effects - worst case - streamer hits the antenna =:O Massive errors are noted!!! Don't do that!! :o)) Streamers are dynamic and sort on unpredictable "noise" in the antenna's pickup. Perhaps one could simply do digital averaging to "eliminate" their effects. But "I" think if you have sort of small streamers directed far away from the antenna, it is not a "big deal". I also thing "streamer loading (to the air) is not a "great" load on the coil anyway... Or spice coil models would fail drastically if they were that far off... It really depends on how accurate you are trying to be... In many cases, like 50% if really good ;-))

Backplane - It is supposed to block stray signals. In retrospect, there are NO stray signals within like 5 orders of magnitude :o))) I stoled the idea from ones that measured 5V computer noise signals :o))) It does help to "direct" the antenna's sensitivity zone. That might be useful... But you probably don't need any back plane at all... The 20nF cap provides all the divider load needed... So you can use just a single sided PC board or metal plate...

The plane wave antenna things was really just meant to be better than the "wire off a scope probe" thing... It really is MUCH better!! But it is not perfect and you can trick it if you try easily enough... But really, even a wire antenna with the cable loading and matching "tricks" added would really do very well!!!! Maybe that is the best solution in the long run... I am a little intrigued by using an "array" of them to see a "bigger picture"...

All things considered, I think we can figure out top voltages darn well now-a-days... :D

Cheers,

	Terry