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Re: Capacitor Size and BPS



Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson" <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Curt, David,

I use 0.06uF myself and I believe David uses 0.1uF, so yes your range is fine.

As far as the LTR values used for static and rsg systems, the LTR is meant for smaller internally ballasted transformers like NST's. Transformer resonance would be affected by externally ballasted transformers from the programs numbers. That is easy to miss in Javatc, however, it is noted in the pop up link for that particular output value.

Take care,
Bart

Tesla list wrote:

Original poster: "C. Sibley" <a37chevy@xxxxxxxxx>

Thank you, exactly the advice I was seeking.  I had
pretty much decided upon .06 to .09 uF on my own,
sounds like I'm in the ball park...

Curt.

--- Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Original poster: "David Rieben"
> <drieben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Curt,
>
> The size of your capacitor will be determined not
> only by the size of your transformer and its ability
> to readily recharge the capacitor after each
> discharge
> cycle but also by the chosen BPS. 120 BPS is not the
> "magic" number
> BTW, unless you're intending
> upon running in synch mode (assuming 60 Hz mains
> frequency). For our friends in Europe with 50 Hz
> mains service, 100 BPS would be the proper set-
> ting for synchronous operation. Many pig coilers opt
> to run
> asynchronous with a variable speed DC motor driven
> rotory gap. Many
> find optimal BPS ranges in the 200 to 400 BPS range
> when running
> asynch. Obviously, you wouldn't be able to effective
> charge a larger
> capacitor as well running say
> 300 BPS as opposed to running 120 BPS with a given
> transformer size,
> so the synch rotary gapped coils (SRSG) often do
> employ a larger
> primary capacitor than an equally rated
> asynch rotary gap driven coil. If you plan to
> operate your
> 5 kVA, 11" coil synch, I would suggest at least .1
> uFd for
> the primary capacitor size and you may want to go
> somewhat (but not a
> lot) smaller for the capacitor if running asynch,
> maybe
> .05 to .075 uFd, depending how high BPS you intend
> to run.
> Higher BPS doesn't offer as much energy per bang but
> since you're
> firing more bangs per second, the total output power
> will still be
> similar to the synch 120 BPS and the available power
> from the
> transformer is the limiting factor. Many coilers
> note increased spark
> length by increasing the BPS with an asynch driven
> coil,
> within reason. Emperical research has shown that
> there isn't any
> advantage by running BPS higher than 500 to 600 and
> the output
> spark length actually begins to go down for a given
> input power
> when BPS ranges are pushed beyond that. Besides
> that, very high
> BPS rep rate is VERY hard on the primary capacitor
> ;^0
>
> Also, because of the relatively large size of
> capacitor that would
> be required for LTR with a pig transformer, many
> pole pig coilers
> keep their primary caps smaller than resonant (STR),
> even when
> running synch. With a 5 kVA, 14.4 kV pig,  Bart
> Anderson's
> Java Tesla coil designer program shows .167 uFd as
> LTR for a SRSG
> driven coil and a "mere" .096 uFd as LTR for a sta-
> tic gap driven coil, although a static gap would not
> be a good idea
> for processing that much power (BIG quenching
> problems).
>
> Good luck with your project and keep us informed of
> its progress.
>
> David Rieben
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list"
> <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:43 PM
> Subject: Capacitor Size and BPS
>
>
> >Original poster: "C. Sibley" <a37chevy@xxxxxxxxx>
> >I'm trying to get a better understanding of the
> >appropriate size capacitor for a Pole Pig driven
> coil.
> >  Obviously a larger capacitor will give a bigger
> bang,
> >but too big will charge too slowly and may not
> achieve
> >120 BPS.  As I understand it, 120 BPS is the magic
> >number, anything lower essentially means charging
> >cycles are missed and total power transfer is less?
> >Correct me here if I'm wrong...
> >So I'm seeking advice on capacitor size for a 5KVA
> 11"
> >Coil.  Any advice?
> >Thanks,
> >Curt.
>
>
>
>




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