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Re: Twin coils on ebay



Original poster: "bob by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <forlaser-at-gte-dot-net>

16 joules to kill?
3 joules can stop an adult heart..
if your heart is stoped for long, this will ultimatly lead to death
even small nst's can give dangerous shocks to those in poor health
a high power nst or a pole pig most definatly has the potential to kill
tesla coils CAN kill

-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Date: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Twin coils on ebay


>Original poster: "Mike Novak by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<acmnovak-at-msn-dot-com>
>
>How could a tesla coil possibly kill anyone???
>My cap only stores 3.7 joules and it takes 16 joules to kill.
>The only real dangerous part of my coils are the rotary spark gaps. They
>spin electrodes at around 60 mph...
>One could be seriously hurt by them, but It would take some effort to get
>killed by them.
>
>-Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:57 PM
>Subject: Re: Twin coils on ebay
>
>
>> Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Tesla coil "liability" is always a "fun" subject :-))
>>
>> "I" just take the "stance" that people that go near Tesla coils are
>> suicidal maniacs that "I" can't control :-))  We post all the
>"disclaimers"
>> at all out web sites saying that this is a really screwed up and wildly
>> dangerous hobby, but still people jump into it like mad.  All we can do
is
>> try to explain and warn them about the "safety stuff" in hopes that they
>> won't hurt themselves...
>>
>> Let's make one thing "perfectly clear".  Tesla coils deal with thousands
>of
>> amps and hundreds of thousands of volts.  They are extremely dangerous!
>> Anyone who wants to play with such things does so solely at their own
>> risk!!  If you blow yourself into oblivion, that is your choice.  You
>could
>> be working in the garden or watching TV right now...
>>
>> I could jump on a plane, patrol know sites of the "base jumpers", wrastle
>> them to the ground, cuff them up, and haul them to the cops... and still
>> get sued ;-))  Fact is, anyone can get "sued" at anytime for anything...
>> All we can do, is do the "right thing".  What counts, is what "wins"...
>>
>> I don't know of any Tesla coil law suits...  Perhaps like Tesla coil
>> deaths, we should watch them and study them to make our hobby as safe as
>it
>> can be from the legal side too.  While the "hypotheticals" are endless,
>the
>> real successful lawsuits are what really count.  I have heard of maybe
>> someone getting hurt in Florida and going maybe to court, but no
>results...
>>  Anyone heard of any Tesla coil litigation going on???
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>> At 07:37 PM 7/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>> >To Mike, and everyone selling or renting Tesla coils, parts or services:
>> >
>> >As a retired and inactive attorney I cannot give legal advice ;-)
But...
>I
>> >can tell you that I am concerned for those of you who fit this category.
>> >Mike, I haven't seen the waiver you intend to present to the buyer of
>your
>> >beautiful twin coil -- but have you thought about the fact that you
could
>be
>> >exposed to liability if someone Other Than the buyer is injured by this
>coil,
>> >regardless of what the buyer signs?  This is only one of many issues
that
>> >needs to be covered in a waiver/sales agreement that would protect you
in
>the
>> >event something, sometime, goes tragically wrong.  Product liability
laws
>are
>> >extremely broad and it would be nearly impossible to write a waiver that
>> >protected the purveyor of HV components or services without a large
>amount of
>> >legal research -- or existing expertise in this field of law.  (I have
no
>> >expertise at all in this area and am not offering my services.)
>> >
>> >I am definitely not trying to be a wet blanket here, but I have grown
>fond of
>> >this List and its contributors and I would hate to see someone's life
>screwed
>> >up by a lawsuit that your homeowner's/renter's insurance Will Not Cover.
>I
>> >hope everyone in the category of purveyors will get good legal advice
>before
>> >wandering into the talons of a personal injury attorney.  The (very few)
>> >professional coilers on this list know what I am talking about and do
not
>> >need my advice.  But I am concerned about the rest of you...
>> >
>> >Though I doubt any of you few professionals will respond, it would be a
>real
>> >service to members of this list if you have any helpful comments to
offer
>on
>> >this subject.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Michael Tandy
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello All,
>> >>  I FINALLY got my Twin coil system up on ebay...
>> >>  http://cgi.ebay-dot-com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1617224991
>> >>  Check it out
>> >>
>> >>  -Mike Novak
>> >>
>> >
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