Original poster: "spoonMAN by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <spoonman534-at-yahoo-dot-com> I took a hit across both arms from an ignition coil about 6 months ago (sheer carelessness).. my chest and arm muscles hurt for a week.. that was not fun.. that was my life lesson.. I plan to never make that mistake twice... Ben McMillen ICQ# 9624792