Original poster: "Jim DeLillo by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <jimdel-at-bellatlantic-dot-net> I am hand winding my first secondary(is that an oxymoron?). Besides being ugly, do the bumps from jumped turns affect performance? I think when I get done I will have a good section that I plan to coat and then unwind the ugly part. Has any body else done this? << Jim >>