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Re: New System, was "Real Data--




Do local ordinances allow for a circus tent like temporary
enclosure?  If it had enough peak to it then It could be
left up all winter.  Just curious.
Barry

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|From: "tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com"-at-PMDF-at-PAXMB1
|To: Benson Barry; "Tesla-list-subscribers-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com"-at-PMDF-at-PAXMB1
|Subject: Re: New System, was "Real Data--
|Date: Wednesday, November 20, 1996 1:35AM
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|From Esondrmn-at-aol-dot-comTue Nov 19 21:53:40 1996
|Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:58:28 -0500
|From: Esondrmn-at-aol-dot-com
|To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
|Subject: Re: New System, was "Real Data--
|
|In a message dated 96-11-16 03:14:31 EST, you write:
|
|<<
| Hi Ed:
|    Right now I am trying to sort through several alternatives associated
| with my winter project.  Yes, it is a two coil system and I have a 10
| KVA 14,400 VAC pole pig, welder ballast and Superior 1256D variable
| transformer in the supply.  Last night I decided to change the secondary
| to a 56" length with the 15.25" form diameter in order to get a bit
| lower in frequency.  This results in a resonance of about 106 Khz
| without a toroid.  My curiosity at this point centers about picking the
| optimum capacitor size, with maximum spark being the goal.  I originally
| thought a .1 mfd cap would be about in the correct range, but alot
| depends on how far the secondary resonance will drop with a proper
| toroid, if an ideal L/C ratio is a target.  I'm still not clear on what
| the proper L/C ratio might be.  My 8" diameter by 28" long coil had a
| 221 Khz resonance and with the 48" toroid it dropped to a measured 94
| Khz.  If I could expect the 106 Khz resonance of the new secondary to
| drop to around 50-55 Khz with a big toroid,  I would have a primary
| needing about 100 uh with the .1 mfd cap.  O.K., I guess I could just
| slap a random choice cap size in there and hope for the best, but
| another option makes more sense to me.  That option is, we have a
| tremendous amount of experience in this group and I sure don't mind
| listening for a few weeks and filtering out the stuff that will help me
| get a notch closer to the best I can personally do (The real story is, I
| sure don't want to spend $450-$600 on a cap that isn't quite right!).
| My last primary had 15 turns so I have no problem with a similar design
| here.  I will use 5/8" thin wall copper refrigeration tube, if they make
| it in that size!  Haven't checked yet.
|
|    I am planning on using the 12" diameter flexible aluminum air duct for
| the toroid perimeter.  I used the same type of stuff but in 6" or 8" on
| the other coil and was happy with the results.  I figure on a 60"
| diameter for this one.  Yea, I guess I'll need lots of power to get it
| to break out.  I have room for a few more breakers downstairs and the
| next one will be a 100 amp line out to the Tesla area, or that spot my
| wife calls the drive way.  Silly, she thinks she will be able to use the
| garage next year!
|    I got a couple of parts made today for my winding system for the
| secondary.  I should have the PVC form mounted up and getting close to
| winding this next week.  I am getting a gear reduction drive unit
| coupled to a shaft and support system to hold the form while winding and
| then I'll coat it with the Behr Super Build 50 polyurethane varnish--I
| really love that stuff!  I will take photo's so that when it's 10 below
| zero here I can have something to look at and wait for spring.  As
| always, I appreciate any ideas and comments.  Thanks in advance!
|
| Chuck Curran
| Cedarburg, WI >>
|
|
|Chuck,
|
|This sounds like a super system.  It should perform very well.  I agree 
about
|the capacitor, for that kind of money, you don't want to be too hasty.
|
|I also am relegated to operating only outside on the driveway - having
|outgrew the basement and the garage.  I sure wish I had a nice large heated
|building to set all this up in.  I made good progress when I had the coil 
set
|up in the basement.  Every night after work I could experiment and leave
|everything set up for the next day.  Now  it is a big job to get it all set
|up outside to run it - depending on the weather of course.
|
|Ed Sonderman  Spokane, WA
|